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In Their Own Words: An interview with Congressman Joe Sestak

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Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 21:08:16 PM EDT


U.S. Congressman Joe Sestak (D) represents Pennsylvania's 7th Congressional District, which includes most of Delaware County, southwestern Montgomery County and eastern Chester County. In May of this year, Sestak defeated Sen. Arlen Specter in the U.S. Senate primary and will face former congressman Pat Toomey (R PA-15) this November in the general election. The following are excerpts from an interview by Charlie Smolover with Rep. Sestak held on July 19, 2009.

PJV: You've been criticized in ads recently about your position on Israel and Gaza, and about a talk you gave to the Pennsylvania Chapter of the Council on American Pennsylvania Islamic Relations in 2007. What is your response?

Publisher :: In Their Own Words: An interview with Congressman Joe Sestak

I have had the honor of visiting Israel many times. I've toured the country. Israel is a vital ally of the United States and when I was in the navy I would have gladly laid down my own life to defend her. That's how important she is to the security of our own country. When my carrier battle group was ordered to the Persian Gulf from the Mediterranean, I left behind an Aegis cruiser tied into Israel's missile defense system to help defend her. When Israel was being denied our new littoral combat ships, I met with Israel's ambassador and her chief of naval operations and then worked to get her those ships. When the Defense Department wanted to cancel Israel's Arrow missile defense system, I was able to delay that long enough to prove that Israel's missile was superior to what the U.S. was recommending. I still have my Never Again Masada shirt that I got in Israel, and no candidate is more committed to her survival than I am.

As far as Gaza is concerned, I made a point of asserting that it is Hamas, not Israel, that is oppressing the people of Gaza. But I did recommend that Israel ease its blockade of Gaza. I didn't think it was helping make Israel more secure and it appears the Netanyahu government has reached the same conclusion.

This issue with the CAIR speech is indicative, unfortunately, of how low the political debate as become. I appeared at their dinner with other politicians, including Governor Rendell (D PA) and State Senator Andy Dinniman (D-West Chester), both firm supporters of Israel. But before I agreed to speak, I consulted a mentor of mine, Congressman Steve Israel (D-NY) for his advice. He gave me a copy of the speech Elie Wiesel made to President Reagan in 1985 when Reagan agreed to visit the German military cemetery at Bitburg. Wiesel did not mince words. He spoke truth to power and told Reagan it was wrong to lay a wreath at that cemetery where SS troops were buried. I used that speech as a model for my own speech to CAIR. And I told CAIR that if they had any hope of improving relations between America and the Muslim world, they must clearly condemn, by name, those Muslim organizations engaged in terror. That was my message to CAIR and I am glad I had the opportunity to make it.

PJV: Democratic Party power brokers both nationally and in Pennsylvania appeared certain they had all their ducks in row with respect to supporting Arlen Specter in the primary, yet your victory over Specter was decisive. What does that say about the leadership of the party, especially here in Pennsylvania?

What it says is that they were not listening. When I toured Pennsylvania during the campaign, I could tell people were concerned, even scared. They were being devastated by the recession and were also unclear about how healthcare reform was going to benefit them. They had no idea what government meant any longer, what its role could be in their life. Public officials not only failed to listen, they failed to explain how the stimulus bill and healthcare reform could benefit them. They were too caught up in their own political calculations. Look, Pennsylvanians have a lot of common sense. They can tell when something is broken and they want it fixed. No politician should have been surprised at those town halls where people could barely contain their frustration. They wanted to hear clear, pragmatic information about how we can move our country forward. And that is the message I stuck to throughout the campaign, talking in pragmatic terms about what was broken and how it could be fixed.

PJV: Many political observers cited one particular TV spot, the one showing Specter taking about wanting to keep his job, as instrumental to your victory.

It was not a decisive as some would like to believe. I was closing the polling gap between us before that ad ran. It was actually an earlier ad, a biographical ad designed to introduce me to voters, that started the trend. A poll taken right after the Specter ad ran showed us in a statistical dead heat. We continued to build on that trend, making appearances everywhere we could, making 14,000 calls a day. It's that kind of hard work that really wins campaigns.

PJV: If most of the money made available to banks through the TARP program has been paid back, and if most economists are right in saying the law helped prevent a complete breakdown of our financial system, why are so many politicians running for office loathe to even mention it, let alone defend it?

I'm not backing away from my support of that legislation. I would do it again if necessary. I didn't vote for it because it was liberal or conservative. I vote for it because it was needed. You have to remember that no one was lending any money. The LIBOR rate shot up seven percent. We were facing an economic meltdown. Again, it's about responding pragmatically to the state of our economy and doing what we need to do to fix it.

PJV: Your opponent in November, Pat Toomey, is likely to accuse you of supporting "bank bailouts." How will you respond?

Pat Toomey left Wall Street, where he made a fortune, for Capitol Hill. There he wrote the legislation to repeal Glass-Steagall Act and voted for other legislation that effectively removed the rules governing Wall Street. So after helping to triple our national debt he leaves Congress to lead the Club For Growth, which continues to fight against the kind of regulations we need to reign in Wall Street excesses, leaving us to caulk the leaks to keep our economy from sinking. Having torpedoed our economy, Congressman Toomey has no right to criticize those who tried to prevent the economic disaster he and his GOP colleagues enabled through eight years of fiscal irresponsibility. And the lack of accountability for the damage that was done is inexcusable. But criticize is all he can do because he has no record to stand on.

PJV: President Obama appointed a deficit reduction commission that is scheduled to make its recommendations later this year. In the meantime, Congressmen Barney Frank and Ron Paul have been arguing that deficit reduction must include cuts in defense spending. As a retired admiral, do you think we need eleven carrier battles groups? Do we still need troops in Europe to defend against a Warsaw Pact that no longer exists?

We don't. And the answer is improving our ability to interconnect our military assets. That has not been pursued as vigorously as it should be. Our common link isn't the sea anymore, it's cyberspace. I'm talking about scenarios where a soldier or sailor looks through binoculars to identify a target and then blinks his eye to send the coordinates to a satellite. That data is instantly relayed to missile which is launched to destroy the target. Make no mistake, we live in a dangerous world and we need a military that is capable of defending us. My point is that we can have a military which is more effective and efficient if we make investments in the technologies that we need to fight in the 21st century.

PJV: It's been said that the passing of Senators Byrd and Kennedy marks the end of an era of civility in the senate. Why have politics become so toxic?

Party leaders need to recognize that the "I win, you lose" way of doing business in Washington today is sapping our government of its integrity. A key moment may well have been the way Newt Gingrich (R-GA) went after Jim Wright (D-TX) in 1989. The book, The Ambition and the Power: The Fall of Jim Wright is worth reading. The issue is not whether (former Speaker of the House) Wright was guilty of ethics violations, but how he was vilified in such a personal and partisan way. I talked to people who appear in that book. They said that before the Wright episode there were certainly fierce battles in congress, but they didn't have the caustic, Hatfield vs. McCoys animosity that you see today. As a result, the American people have become cynical and the politicians, in turn, have become even more cynical. Instead of creating pragmatic solutions to problems that we all recognize, we just try to make the other guy wrong. I think the Tea Party is partly a reaction to that, and that's why I don't put don't put them down. They're just people who want to be heard.

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